AI in Legal Practice: The Comprehensive AI Strategy Guide
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Retaining top legal talent often feels like an uphill climb. Unless you have Karen Mesmer’s playbook. In this episode of Between the Briefs, Karen, Legal Services Manager at Shook, Hardy and Bacon, joins hosts Adrian Cea and Joe Stephens to explore how premier litigation firms are evolving their operations in the face of technological disruption.
The legal industry is nothing without its people. So, it’s time we started paying attention to them.
00:00
Introduction & Meeting Karen Mesmer
03:00
Behind Karen’s Four Decades of Legal Innovation
04:45
Why Energy and Soft Skills Beat Credentials
06:06
Navigating the Tech Transitions of Legal
10:56
Hiring, Firing, Manners and Accountability
17:20
AI as Enhancement, Not Replacement: The Future of Legal Work
20:46
Digital Literacy as Table Stakes for Modern Operations
21:53
The Secret to Career Advancement in Law Firms
24:33
Lessons from the Paralegal Years: Presence and Boundaries
27:47
Professional Development and Internal Growth Pathways
29:30
Vendor Fatigue and Transparent Technology Evaluation
33:21
Building Cultures Where Nobody Leaves: The Shook Model
36:21
Preparing Your Successor and Planning for Transition
37:18
Karen’s Hot Take: Protecting Young People from Irreversible Decisions
38:52
Closing Thoughts
Joe Stephens
Joe Stephens, J.D., is Steno's Director of Legal Solutions as well as a Clinical Lecturer at Texas Tech University School of Law. With over 15 years of experience in criminal defense and public service, he founded and led Texas' largest rural public defender office, which serves a 12-county area. A graduate of The University of Texas School of Law (cum laude) and Vanderbilt University (B.A.), Stephens currently serves as a Board Member of the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's Association (TCDLA) and sits on multiple State Bar of Texas committees. His expertise spans the intersection of legal practice and technological innovation in the justice system.
Adrian Cea
Adrian Cea is Steno's Social Media Manager, leading content strategy, audience engagement, and digital brand-building across platforms. He also produces and co-hosts Between the Briefs, Steno's podcast covering the intersection of legal technology, court reporting, and the future of litigation. With a background spanning content creation, field marketing, and sales at companies like Sell Better and Chili Piper, Adrian brings a multi-disciplined lens to making complex legal tech topics accessible and engaging.
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